Niall
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Post by Niall on Feb 9, 2010 19:22:38 GMT -5
No, no. Ive watched remors 4 about 10 times now. And one thing bugs the heck-outa me.
Burts great grandfarther says we will settle on that hill, build a house and maby a basement.
Watch the original Tremors. Burt says something like this (Couldn't be arsed finding quote)
'We moved hear due to its isloation'
Moved! not brourght up in perfection, moved to their to survive nuclear fallout.
So, tremors 4 - did it even happen? Or is there two different tremors timelines? Reply Niall.
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Post by project412 on Feb 9, 2010 19:44:35 GMT -5
Well, it is very possible that he moved to Perfection because of the isolation AND the fact that family once lived there. Plus it is mentioned in the TV series that his money was in silver bars, which mush have been inherited from the mine.
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Post by captbart on Mar 23, 2010 19:23:07 GMT -5
Niall, I'm of a similar mind as project412. Since the mine had played out (that's where proud foot corp put their lab, remember) it is to be expected that Burt's family lived in other places. Certainly, Burt's grandfather and perhaps father would have fought in the world wars so moving to Perfection does not preclude the family moving "back" to Perfection. What I found interesting is the lack of "family memory" about the mine and its location. Small western towns in their hundreds simply vanished. Louis L'Amour made a fortune writing about these towns in his "oat operas" (my favorites next to Tremors). I would enjoy a family history of how Hiram became a Burt. The closing scene of T4 where Hiram discovers the joy of "full auto" is the beginning. I'd enjoy the tail. Sort of a take off on L'Amour's Sacketts.
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Post by captbart on Mar 31, 2010 14:17:14 GMT -5
My problem with T4 is that the tongue that stalled Val's truck was ripped off before it damaged the kids arm. I also wonder why the same tongue that Val hit with a 30-30 and made it let go of the horse was not blown away by Black Hand Kelly in the horse barn. Seems to me that a 44-40 slug at that range might have made the Graboids change their mind about pulling the floor out of the barn. It made the worms back off at the wagon until they knocked the gun to the ground. just a thought.
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luizburtgummer
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Post by luizburtgummer on Oct 20, 2020 7:04:27 GMT -5
My problem with T4 is that the tongue that stalled Val's truck was ripped off before it damaged the kids arm. I also wonder why the same tongue that Val hit with a 30-30 and made it let go of the horse was not blown away by Black Hand Kelly in the horse barn. Seems to me that a 44-40 slug at that range might have made the Graboids change their mind about pulling the floor out of the barn. It made the worms back off at the wagon until they knocked the gun to the ground. just a thought. Your comments many years long, but it is interesting. I believe they are small mistakes.
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Post by captbart on Oct 20, 2020 7:54:26 GMT -5
luizburtgummer,
Agree, small errors in history for the sake of the current story. I think all of the stories had "quirks" in them. Part of the fun of this board has been talking about the various "gotchas" and attitudes. One of the things I like about the first 4 Tremors is the occasional pun hidden in them. In T4 my favorite is the name of the hardware store. It is called "RICHTER'S", as in the Richter Scale for measuring earthquakes! In a series of movies that includes a big dependence on seismic geology I find this humorous.
Thanks for getting some of our older threads active again.
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oc
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Post by oc on Sept 30, 2022 9:30:29 GMT -5
Well, it is very possible that he moved to Perfection because of the isolation AND the fact that family once lived there. Plus it is mentioned in the TV series that his money was in silver bars, which mush have been inherited from the mine. Very much so. I believe I've read somewhere in the Stampede Tremors FAQ essentially this, plus more details: Hiram got pretty annoyed when the government insisted on that “Perfection was established 1902”, thus they moved out (and the distrust of government in the Gummer family began :)) Almost a century later, when Burt and Heather sought for a good remote place they checked Perfection — actually the idea to go there was based on the family memory — too, and found it near to, well, perfect, if you forgive the pun. I wonder if we can't make both the problems to cancel each other :) What if it was the very tongue which had been shot in the mule station (perhaps even more times), and thus was later ripped off much more easily? As for 30-30 vs 44-40, well, the rifle bullet carries almost three times as much energy; with just a smallest bit of suspension of disbelief I guess we might accept that it annoys the beast considerably more. Wouldn't we all. E.g., Hiram with his Gatling holding back a pack of Shriekers could be a great story :) (By the way, is it a pack of Shriekers, or should some other collective be used? There's too many of them in English ;))
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Post by captbart on Sept 30, 2022 14:43:09 GMT -5
"By the way, is it a pack of Shriekers, or should some other collective be used?"
Since the Shriekers don't really work together I don't think "pack" is correct. May I suggest that the name for a bunch of crows works well - a "MURDER" of crows. I rather like that name for Shriekers.
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oc
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Post by oc on Oct 3, 2022 16:48:39 GMT -5
Do they not? :)
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Post by captbart on Dec 6, 2022 20:49:45 GMT -5
OG, I think it is established that they learn from each other, especially in the series. In T3 Burt notes their "zero tactical" skills. I guess the case could be made that they cooperate. They certainly do in T2 building the "pyramid" to get to Earl on the tanks. I'll have to reconsider my comments. I still like "murder" for the name of a group.
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oc
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Post by oc on Jan 3, 2023 20:26:07 GMT -5
Capt,
first and foremost, lots of luck and health in the new year! And same to the others (if there are any) here :)
As for the name, can't agree more; it's got considerably better sound than, say, "a school of Shriekers" (whose only advantage would be the alliteration :))
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