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Post by Mr.ELBlanco on Jun 19, 2004 12:22:15 GMT -5
Vote for your favorite method of monster elimination on Tremors, the choices are somewhat limited, i know theres tons of others but electrocution or something like that hasnt happened on Tremors yet, if you have one not on the list post it here.
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Puntgun
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Post by Puntgun on Jun 20, 2004 9:22:26 GMT -5
"I am now employing the tatic pioneered by Earl Bassest"
"Note to self, 4 pounds of C4 maybe a little.....excessive"
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Post by max3099 on Aug 6, 2006 19:43:47 GMT -5
I like it when they blow the crud out of a graboid or shriker etc.. with guns!
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Post by graboidbuster50cal on Nov 13, 2011 6:42:37 GMT -5
"thats two and a half tons of high exsplosives earl" id like to add the deus and a half demo job in t2 "its gonna be big"
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Post by captbart on Nov 14, 2011 18:24:40 GMT -5
Burt KNOWS his explosives. Yep, it's going to be BIG!!!! But is it gonna be TODAY? ? BOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM! YEP, I love things that go BOOM. Notice what Burt was watching when he got the call from Earl - words to the effect of "the big guns pounded the target etc......." Yep, things that go BOOM. Even his "domicile" in T3. I love his line in T3 when Jack says you destroyed them and Burt says "No, I've blown them up before, there should be parts etc....."
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Post by graboidbuster50cal on Jan 17, 2012 17:02:21 GMT -5
yep thats the burt we all know go big or blow up ur house truck refinerey ect.
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Post by timforston on Jan 18, 2012 3:39:09 GMT -5
yep had to go with explosions whats Tremors without a huge amount of overkill that can only come from Burt Gummer
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Post by captbart on Jun 25, 2016 9:09:38 GMT -5
While I still go with "things that go BOOM in the night" I think, perhaps, the most creative way to kill a Graboid is in T4. Death by steam tractor! Now that is a classy way to do in a worm.
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Post by captbart on Jul 30, 2017 12:02:08 GMT -5
OK, T5's use of a HUEY and 2.75 inch, folding fin, aerial rockets (OK, they called it MIG rockets but getting the HUEY rigged with the right hard points, electronics, etc. would be tough enough without using Soviet technology) to blow up the cave has GOT to be well up in the mix. While T5 is probably my least favorite "Tremors" movie because of the violence they did to the franchise, I have gotten over being ticked off enough so that I can enjoy the story. I've fired rockets from a "Charlie" model HUEY gunship and they do pack a punch.
Burt is still Burt and Michael Gross does do Burt VERY well. I still have some issues with the inconsistencies in the movie - i.e. the (I assume 9mm) magazine load doesn't hurt the AB but a couple of arrows shot in the rump kills it AND doesn't set off the AB fuel? The near miss to the crotch by the arrows was a little too "Hollywood" stereotypical for my taste.
Just my not so humble opinion of course.
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Post by oc on Jan 6, 2019 20:32:17 GMT -5
By the way, in the Cold Day, the electrocution mentioned at the top actually did happen, did it not? ;)
Still, I prefer shooting myself, though explosions are almost as good.
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Post by captbart on Apr 14, 2021 18:32:54 GMT -5
OC, You must be MUCH younger than am I! At nearly 72 the recoil from the guns that "impress" a graboid have a tad too much recoil for my old bones. Like Burt says in T2, "hold it tight against your shoulder or it will break your collar bone" when handing Earl the .375 H&H Mag. Having fired that caliber a few times, I can testify that he spoke truthfully. A full power load can HURT!
An explosion at a safe distance is impressive and entertaining but if done correctly it is not painful for anyone except the target.
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Post by oc on Sept 30, 2022 12:02:35 GMT -5
Well depends on what a "MUCH" means. At 56, I'm not that young anymore, though of course, still 16 years is 16 years... We might have debated it in another thread already: I do love those big-bore doubles, but indeed they do tend to kick like a mule. Also, they are good for close quarters only, which is not what you really want to do with a graboid; and they are proven not to work through the dirt. If I went to a graboid country (and had inherited a nice heap of silver :)), my primary weapon would most probably be something like this: Due to the massive muzzle brake, it does not kick much at the shoulder; the kick target-side should, on the other hand, impress a graboid pretty darn much, even if he's a feet or two underground. 'Course, one needs to be careful shooting in a direction where the only backstop is a wall and one does not know what's behind (actually that's one of my rare peeves with otherwise great Aftershocks: Burt, being Burt, definitely would ask whether anyone knows what's there before shooting his Grizzly). A double (or perhaps a .45-70 levergun) I would keep as a back-up in case a Shrieker or two occurred :) As for explosives, well, they are, as I wrote, almost as good. It's just a bit easier to bring lots of ammo than lots of toy radio-controlled cars. And we do need to remember that four pounds of C4 may be just a bit excessive.
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Post by captbart on Oct 1, 2022 11:38:53 GMT -5
OC, You are right of course about muzzle brakes helping. I also find that black powder recoil is more gentle than modern powder. It is more of a shove than a kick, probably has to do with burn rates. Still, except in "Tucker's Monster" (available from Amazon) I've never heard of anything that a .45-70 can't handle. I remember that in the second Jurassic Park movie the guy carried a .45-70 lever gun as his equalizer. I have a Marlin in that caliber and love shooting it. While it does get long range (it'll still be lethal at 3000 yards to light skin critters like humans) that takes practice. The trajectory at long ranges looks like an artillery round.
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Post by oc on Oct 1, 2022 15:02:33 GMT -5
Captbart,
I'm no expert reloader by far, but I understand the burn rates of a black and nitro are pretty difficult to compare; the way they burn is just too different, smokeless begins rather slowly but the rate increases with the pressure whilst black's rather detonates than burns, etc. I need to study this thoroughly, for it so happens I want to reload for my Lee, Keene and Winchester .45-70's — alas, still no Marlin here :( — in a near future. (Nevertheless, I'd prefer a nitro-for-black, if I find some decent loads. There seems to be lots of info how to reload smokeless for trapdoors, which I'm going to start with.)
I'll try to get the Tucker's Monster book — seems could be fun, especially given the author :) Due to the darned Fourth Reich EU here it is not that easy to order from the U.S.A. (well ordering is easy; getting the stuff is not, for the customs got pretty darn crazy lately). But I guess I might be able to find the book in amazon.de, or something like that.
As for Jurassic Park, I can't recall a levergun in JP2 (nice .600 NE double though!) On the other hand, far as I recall, in the first Jurassic World movie (the 4th of the whole franchise) the Pratt's character whose name nobody bothers to remember actually does sport a nice .45-70 Marlin. I am pretty sure even the mighty I-rex would very much notice that in reality (well if he existed in reality, that is :)) Alas, whichever complete dumbasses wrote the script, they unfortunately sticked with the Spielberg's totally idiotic axiom that no firearm could ever be used effectively in his movies (newer ones than Jaws that is) :(
(Actually I wonder whether there's a decent dino hunt movie. There's a couple of pretty good books out there, e.g., Rivers of Time or Dinosaurs & a Dirigible, but I fear I know of no movie worth seeing :/ )
Finally, yup, .45-70's ballistics is not the best one for longrange. On the other hand, I guess with a well-chosen nitro powder in a heavy rifle you might be able to repeat the ballistic of Quigley's .45-110's, and those were pretty longrange efficient :)
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Post by captbart on Dec 8, 2022 12:46:11 GMT -5
oc, Pyrodex makes powder loads for muzzle loaders. There is a .45-50 pellet at www.brownells.com/reloading/muzzleloading-components/muzzleloading-powder/triple-se7en-45-50-pellets-prod81667.aspx and www.brownells.com/reloading/muzzleloading-components/muzzleloading-powder/index.htm?f_a=1 that lists the products that Brownells sells. There are others. I've not used the rifle reloads but use their pellets some in my .44, 1860 Colt with good results. IMR (now part of Hodgdon I think) makes something called Trail Boss www.brownells.com/reloading/powder/pistol-powder/imr-trail-boss-powder-prod41221.aspx for example. That powder is sized to take the same volume as BP. Finding a place that sells BP can be tough as the commercial firms have tough storage requirements. Around Houston, few or no stores stock it. It can be mail ordered but the shipping adds additional charges for special handling. Fortunately it is a flat rate per box so buying a few pounds becomes cheaper that one pound at a time. Never really seen a good dino/monster hunt movie. The Tremors movies and series is one of the few where firearms actually work! It also is one of the few where some decent gun facts are demonstrated. As in there is such a thing as too much gun as well as too little. Also some good lessons on enough ammo. Frankly, some movies (Gorgo comes to mind) where everything bounces off the beast just really leave me shaking my head. A single 16 inch, armor piercing shell might not penetrate but I am certain that enough hits would do damage. Sigh, it is too easy to write scripts that ignore reality but it annoys me that so many folks take fiction as proof their way is OK.
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