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Post by timforston on May 1, 2018 20:31:46 GMT -5
If the graboids looked and acted like they have in the first four movies I would put this movie at the fourth best behind one, two, and three. The new graboid design is still extremely annoying. The storyline for the movie was above and beyond 3. Even if the Burt being poisoned thing didn't make a ton of sense they did it fairly well. I liked the homages to the first three movies in the things they did which I'm sure y'all will notice throughout the entire movie. Spoilers in the reply.
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Post by timforston on May 1, 2018 20:42:09 GMT -5
Spoilers... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Val and Rhonda's daughter? I thought that was going to be horrible when she first introduced herself and it really wasn't. The character was likeable and seemed plausible as Val's daughter but, did they have to name her Val?
The flashback to tremors three showing the graboid eating Burt just erked me because it had to remind us what graboids are supposed to look like and then be completely ignored.
The graboids tongues are no longer detachable. Thank God. That was one of the stupidest things about 5.
Why do shriekers no longer exist? How TF do you lose an entire evolutionary step. In three they forgot that graboids molt into three shriekers and accidentally had them molt into five. That's much better in hindsight since they have apparently forgotten they exist at all.
The new assblaster design in keeping with tremors 5 is even uglier and stupid looking than the graboids. They like like a Langolier with wings that farts fire. Bonus points if you get the Langolier reference.
I honestly thought they were going to kill Burt. I didn't have any doubt they wouldn't before watching it and they actually did a good job making it believable, and tugging at the heart strings.
I NEVER IN MY LIFE WANTED TO SEE BURT'S BUTT AND WISH I HADN'T LMAO
It was probably three times as good as I expected. I wasn't especially looking forward to it, I was excited just because it was tremors and not really anything else. I've probably watched 5 four or five times. This will definitely be watched more than that.
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Post by timforston on May 1, 2018 20:43:21 GMT -5
Oh yeah, why couldn't they put 6 in the title? Come on man, and the cover art is horrible right up there with the TV series graboid having an eye.
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Post by Mr.ELBlanco on May 1, 2018 21:46:22 GMT -5
I actually really liked it, the redesigns and lack of Shriekers don't bother me all that much since they're not supposed to be the same Graboids anyway. I enjoyed the Valerie McKee character, it was a nice throwback to Val and Rhonda. Lots of good throw backs to the earlier films really. It even mentioned Jodi briefly at the Chang's scene. Still no mention of El Blanco, Right now i'm assuming he's dead. I still welcome more Tremors films though, I found a lot of things about this movie to be a lot of fun.
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Post by captbart on May 2, 2018 8:29:00 GMT -5
Thanks for the reviews, guys. I've got mine on order and will post when watched.
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Post by project412 on May 2, 2018 18:16:18 GMT -5
I just watched this thing... it was better than Bloodlines, I guess? It was just a really cheap remake of the original without any of the heart, with the same bad creature redesigns from the last one (what happened to those supposedly being African graboids?), the same Michael Gross seriously trying to give it his all but written as a complete parody of his character from the earlier films (who was already a parody of survivalist gun nut types, so Bloodlines and this one just take everything to absurd degrees and the character barely feels like Burt anymore), directed by Don Michael Paul with that same bland, washed out, overexposed look as the last one. And what is up with the graboid infection subplot? So... 17 years after being eaten (wow Tremors 3 was 17 years ago) Burt just develops some illness that is going to kill him overnight?
About the only thing I genuinely liked was the Val character and Michael Gross doing his thing. Oh, and Chang's Market showing up (would have been nice to see El Blanco during the brief Perfection scene, but of course they wouldn't do that). Slightly better than Bloodlines but, really, what does that amount to?
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Post by captbart on May 3, 2018 21:15:41 GMT -5
spoilers everywhere!
412, I just watched for the first time. Over all, I was pleasantly surprised. Agreeing that it was a reboot of T1, including stuck on a truck, on a rock, board walk wave, etc, it was reasonably well done.Val made a good stab at why they were up there - ie the Arctic eggs were buried by the snowball earth pre-pre-Cambrian and were just now thawed out. The Perfection worms were an evolutionary side path and the African type were a less modified strain of the original. At least an attempt was made to answer the question of the differences between the worm types. I still prefer the Perfection worms to these but at least it was an attempt to make the connection.
My biggest flaw in this episode is the lack of AB's. There should have been at least 9 AB's. where were they?
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Post by project412 on May 4, 2018 6:47:02 GMT -5
I think I'm just still really bitter over how terribly Universal treated Wilson and Maddock before 5, and that Burt is written so... un Burtlike in these last two. Michael Gross is great regardless, and you can tell he is having an absolute blast on set which is the one thing that kept me going watching these last two movies, but he just doesn't feel like Burt anymore in the hands of these new writers. The ugly creature redesigns are just icing on the cake on top of all of that. I still can't even tell the front from the back on the new ABs.
I want to love these movies, I genuinely do. I spent 11 years clamoring for a fifth film. But it just doesn't feel right without the whole gang there to me, I guess. At least this one was a bit of an improvement over Bloodlines, though. Maybe the next one will really surprise me. No matter what I will always support this franchise and give a new installment a chance, but I just truly wish that it was Wilson and Maddock's franchise again.
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Post by captbart on May 4, 2018 8:48:00 GMT -5
Additional thoughts:
I note that the DARPA lady stepped on, and destroyed, one egg but there was at least one more in the pool. The movie folks left themselves an out for more worms for another movie. That was a good move and leads to the possibility of a T7. We also have the makings of a new series with younger characters based on the requests to "teach me so your legacy doesn't end" type statements from Travis.
If I had not seen the original Tremors series this would have been a really good first show. As a reboot/next generation film, it is pretty good. Still has some problems but not bad at all.
I REALLY liked Val's use of her weapon from the roof. Full auto is a lot of fun but her rapid fire, semi-auto was indistinguishable from full auto AND was very accurate unlike full auto which always contains an element of "spray and pray". Well done on the weapons side.
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Post by project412 on May 4, 2018 8:59:59 GMT -5
I will say, I did quite like the new Val in this. Probably my favorite element of the film.
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Post by captbart on May 4, 2018 10:38:26 GMT -5
Yep, Val is indeed a star for me. She is, in many ways, more like Burt than is Travis. I loved the Graboid skin boots that Val wore. I completely agree with you about the treatment that the original Tremors crew received from the studio. They deserved much better for their work. After reading the book "Seeking Perfection" the story of the first films is well told and the machinations from the studio are spread out for our view.
I guess I will never be totally happy with the T5 and T6 shows because of the violence shown to the original T1 thru T3 plots. If there is a T7 and if it is faithful to the new background I guess I'll still be a fan. As I said, T6 is not bad as a reboot/next generation type. I can see a new thread with Val, Travis, and Swackhammer (or similar character - as a Desert Jack, or Earl) as the foundation of a new series of movies. I do not think that any of the Feds make the cut as a replacement for Twitchell but maybe one is not needed.
There is potential but I still have issue with the lack of Shriekers, number of ABs per worm, and the new life cycle. I don't get the cooperation between worm and AB; that is simply not part of the character of the beast. My biggest concern is were can the series go from here? If you know your going after worms and ABs you load up the correct gear and go. Hunting lions is not risk free but you rarely hear of a professional hunter getting taken by the lion. Same here; good show but now what?
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Post by captbart on May 4, 2018 10:53:12 GMT -5
I think my biggest problem with the plot on T6 is the action/reaction of the DARPA guys. Not sure what they are doing, their cover story is obviously just that, but after things start breaking they only show up to get eaten. There is all kinds of shooting with no reaction from the armed response team (for a water project of course) and then one guy goes out to lock the gate. REALLY?
Additionally, if I saw my boss abandon my partner, not just refusing to help but actually facilitating his death, I suspect I might waste a round in his skull. That kind of clown can (and in this case did) get you killed.
I do not have a problem with the worms and AB getting the security force (they have the wrong weapon after all) but I do have a problem with them having no more tactical sense than a T-ball team.
On the flip side, I loved the flying and bush pilot scenes. I am not at all sure why they put her in the right seat. In airplanes pilot in command is left seat; helicopters PIC is right seat. They got it right in T5 and wrong in T6. That said, I loved the banner pick up stuff. OK, getting the hook on that itty, bitty loop is boarder line impossible it still was a good scene. I did some banner tow when I was 5 decades younger and the pickup maneuver was quite right. Actually needed two poles about 30 feet apart for a good hookup but hey, I'll give her EXCEPTIONALLY FANTASTIC flying skill. The timing was perfect as well. If the worm is not already jumping, the plane gets jerked out of the sky but since it was already in mid-jump it just might work. The trap design was brilliant.
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Post by timforston on May 7, 2018 19:25:01 GMT -5
The jumping graboids is something else entirely. The Perfection/South American (and North Saharan Africa unless we're pretending the show no longer exist) must have grown extremely lazy over the years. If they jumped like that Tremors 1 would have had no survivors.
I think they could have fit at least one more penis joke in this new movie. Lol
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Post by captbart on May 7, 2018 20:05:36 GMT -5
Timforston, I assume you are referencing the 'Night of the Shriekers' episode where it is stated that the shriekers came from North Africa (Egypt, IIRC). Since there are no shriekers in this version, that is a problem. I basically think the worms and ABs are an exercise in CGI more than any attempt to follow a logical thread. The flying worm is just dumb in my not so humble opinion. Once the worm is airborne, perhaps before it is actually, it has lost the ability to track prey. I also can't get past the ABs and worms working together. That, to me, just does not fit the personality and traits of either. Still 6 was a great improvement over 5.
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Post by Earl Bassett on May 22, 2018 16:14:26 GMT -5
The first thing that comes to mind when I think of Tremors: A Cold Day in Hell is... FUN! Man, I can't remember when I last had such a good time watching a new movie. I was really looking forward to it, because it's a new entry in the Tremors franchise, but I was prepared to not be blown away since Tremors 5: Bloodlines was somewhat underwhelming. This was definitely a better movie, on pretty much every level. Great, fun script with references to make old fans happy, great action, above-average CGI. I just had a blast watching it - keep in mind I watched it at 7 in the morning after having spent the entire previous evening and following night going through parts 1-5, so I was tired as hell but had no problem staying awake for this.
I loved that we got to see Perfection again for the first time since 2003, that was so cool. But... just 2 people left in town? Who left and why? I don't like to see it being a ghost town. Also it feels weird for Jodi to have left Chang's Market to work as a lawyer. There's been a Chang managing the store since the 1800's, it just doesn't feel right and not something her character would do. Also not sure I understood the problems Burt was having with the IRS and how he could be in so much trouble. I imagine Burt being rich ever since Tremors 2: Aftershocks, but now they could take everything away from him? Maybe the problems stem from him not declaring all the money he got from the Mexican oil field? That would make sense, I guess.
I liked that we got to see Val's daughter and that Val and Rhonda are, in this timeline anyway, still happily married with an offspring added as well. I liked the interactions between her and Burt. Travis was good in this, but they seemed a bit too eager to try making us comfortable with him headlining the franchise in the not too distant future, even have him wearing Burt's clothes when he was ill. Maybe it was all just for laughs, but I sensed an ulterior motive. By the way, in Perfection Travis says something like him being the result of an affair Burt had, is he saying Burt cheated on Heather or is affair something Americans can use to mean casual sex as well? Also, why was Travis meeting Heather? They never went deeper into that conversation to let us in on that.
The opening scene was really cool, so I wish we could have gotten more Graboid action in the snow than we got. I missed seeing Shriekers (again), and not entirely thrilled with the look of the Graboid and Ass-Blaster being the same as in Tremors 5: Bloodlines. Kind of suspected as much, though.
Anyway, I had a great time with this. Of course, it doesn't have that Stampede look and feel, but as far as entertainment is concerned, I'd say Tremors as a franchise is "back" in my book and I can't wait to see what they do with a seventh entry. Bring it on!
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