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Post by captbart on Sept 19, 2015 18:58:06 GMT -5
This is an amalgamation of several previous threads. Basically the intent is to offer a folks a chance to comment on Burt's gun wall as seen in Tremors 1 as well as to talk about what guns you have or want to have or have shot etc. Opinions as to what the minimum battery a person should have seem appropriate but that could be a completely new topic. Let's see where this goes.
Let us start with I want, no NEED, a Grizzly Big Bore in .50 BMG. I'd love a Barrett but those puppies are $10,000 and up! A Big Bore can be had for around $2.5K so at least it is not totally impossible. Any others?
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Post by captbart on Sept 19, 2015 18:59:53 GMT -5
A bit of a clarification ... A battery is a collection of guns you shoot while an arsenal is a collection of guns stored somewhere that are never or rarely fired. Me? I like to shoot a lot and everything I have is fired as often as I can get to the range.
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Post by Mr.ELBlanco on Sept 20, 2015 8:06:05 GMT -5
I want a CZ 550 Safari in .375 H&H Magnum, Probably going to buy it next and fairly soon.
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Post by captbart on Sept 20, 2015 13:04:13 GMT -5
Mr. ElBlanco, Actually, I have one and really enjoy shooting it. It has a single set trigger - pull it and it is about 4 to 5 lbs to pull. Push it forward and the trigger pull was about 2 lbs. Great trigger as well - no slop, creep or other nasty characteristics. My only problem has been getting a scope to use. The recoil shakes the optics to pieces so I'm using it with just the iron sights. The three leaf sight works well out to 300 yards. That is probably as far as you'd want to shoot a .375 anyway but I keep looking for a solid scope that doesn't cost more than the rifle.
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Post by Mr.ELBlanco on Sept 20, 2015 21:50:49 GMT -5
Mr. ElBlanco, Actually, I have one and really enjoy shooting it. It has a single set trigger - pull it and it is about 4 to 5 lbs to pull. Push it forward and the trigger pull was about 2 lbs. Great trigger as well - no slop, creep or other nasty characteristics. My only problem has been getting a scope to use. The recoil shakes the optics to pieces so I'm using it with just the iron sights. The three leaf sight works well out to 300 yards. That is probably as far as you'd want to shoot a .375 anyway but I keep looking for a solid scope that doesn't cost more than the rifle. I intend to just leave it with irons for now anyhow, most of my shooting takes place within 100 yards due to the geography of where i live. I went shooting today actually, fired my fairly new 500 S&W for the first time. Put around 60 rounds through it if i had to guess, including some 700 Gr. Hardcast Tyrannosaur rounds.
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Post by captbart on Sept 21, 2015 18:43:26 GMT -5
I keep threatening to get a 500 or a 460. Unfortunately, I have several shooting interests (this is only a problem due to money!) and a new and larger handgun (as opposed to a new 1873 Colt SSA) just isn't in the mix right now. My reason for a big bore handgun is basically big, brown bears (read grizzly). I have bear loads for both .357 Mag and .45 Colt so I'm covered but I'd feel better with a .454 Casull or a .460 or .500. The advantage for the .454 or .460 is that they both shoot .45 Colt for practice. The .500 is yet another caliber to stock. Still, I like the idea of the .500.
Speaking of uses, the ONLY justification necessary for an American Citizen to own a firearm is "because I want it"! That given, I am a strong believer that every adult citizen should have what I term the "3 plus 1" battery. That battery should contain a shotgun of a gauge one is comfortable shooting, a deer rifle for the area in which you live (I prefer the one that is most common in your area), a handgun capable of stopping the biggest, baddest predator in your area (I usually think bear, black or brown) and a .22 (just because that is probably the most flexible firearm in existence.
My minimum recommendation for east Texas is 20 gauge (12 if you are comfortable with the recoil), .30-30 or .30-06, or .308 for the rifle, .357 Mag (it will shoot .38 SPL) or 9mm Parabellum (.40 or larger if you can handle it) and a good .22 rifle. I really like, but do not own, a Ruger 10/22.
Still, for a city dweller you wouldn't be under-armed with a .357 Mag lever gun, pistol, and 20 gauge to go with a single shot .22. Of course I always encourage more than the "3 gun battery) but EVERY adult citizen should own that basic 3 + 1 battery.
Other ideas for Burt's wall? I don't remember seeing a lever gun on the wall - I'll have to check the movie again.
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Post by Mr.ELBlanco on Sept 22, 2015 12:16:59 GMT -5
I agree with your types of firearms for my area as well. Burt has a few lever guns on his wall, I def. remember seeing some in Tremors 3. I definitely use the "because I want it" as my reason a lot of the time.I just like something with a big bang, but still enjoy the regular stuff too-I am just an everything gun guy I guess because there isn't any type of guns I am not interested in owning/ shooting.
On a side note, I slightly prefer the .460 over the 500 just for the fact it can shoot two other rounds. The 500 is fun too though.
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Post by captbart on Sept 24, 2015 19:34:15 GMT -5
I, too, am a strong supporter of the right gun for the task. Burt would agree I think.
One of my favorites is a .22 rifle. It is one of the few firearms you can shoot all day, still have feeling in your shoulder as well as money to buy a beer and burger when you have finished your shooting. I really enjoy the big boomers. I like my cowboy guns best but I also enjoy shooting well with large caliber weapons.
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Post by captbart on Sept 24, 2015 19:41:26 GMT -5
In T2 Burt mentions that Heather asked him to send the HK to her. I don't have an HK-91 but I have the American made version, the PTR-91. I learned, the painful way, that the American style of shooting does not work well on European firearms. Establishing a cheek weld prior to firing ensures that the full force of the recoil is transmitted to the cheek bone. Experience is not the best teacher but it is the most expensive/painful teacher. The recoil from that .308 bruised my cheek nicely!
Great weapon and I really enjoy shooting it and it is bloody accurate out to the 300 yards I have available. I'd take on either Shriekers or AB's without a second thought with the PTR.
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Post by Mr.ELBlanco on Oct 5, 2015 11:39:13 GMT -5
I like the PTRs, I shot one that was converted to full auto once at a machine gun shoot-it had a really short barrel. Needless to say coupled with the gun that was laying in hot sun and burned my hand to the point i barely held the fore end, that gun was all over the place down range.
Also I know I said I was going to go .375 H&H, ended up getting a new in box Winchester Model 70 Super Grade in .458 Winchester Magnum instead-Still want to get a .375 though, maybe next year.
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Post by captbart on Jun 19, 2016 19:12:02 GMT -5
I've thought about the Winchester .458 Model 70 but here recently, I've gone in a different direction. First, I noticed that Burt also has some "cowboy" arms on his wall. I've found that I really like shooting cowboy guns, both long guns and short guns. Frankly, I don't think I've found a handgun, pistol or revolver, that fits the hand like a Colt 1860 Army. These old cap and ball guns sent a lot of folks into the great beyond. They were made to take down a horse, so the power is there, and the 1860 balances and points better than anything I have ever shot. Black powder is slower to load and takes a bit of care to make sure the caps are properly seated (don't want a click instead of a bang) but for the first 6 rounds it can be as fast as anything out there and is certainly lethal. Interestingly enough, the feds do NOT consider them "firearms". You can order them on-line from Cabela's for around $250 www.cabelas.com/catalog/browse/black-powder-revolvers/_/N-1115136/Ns-CATEGORY_SEQ_567338580 and they will mail it to you, no FFL required. If you care you can also buy a cylinder that takes .45 cartridges - when that cylinder is in the 1860 it IS a firearm, with a cap and ball cylinder in the 1860 it is not considered a gun. Weird but true. Cowboy guns were not much use in Tremors 4 but they are useful against most North American threats.
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Post by Mr.ELBlanco on Jun 24, 2016 12:47:45 GMT -5
The .458 is pretty fun, I only want to do at most 20 rounds in a session for most part though. That's interesting, I never thought about them not being considered a firearm. I think I've only fired one black powder revolver ever, it was a .36 Caliber I think. Other old guns, I've shot a Springfield 1884 Trapdoor not too long ago. I haven't bought anything new since last December or so, Thinking about what the next big thing is. I bought a Browning 1919 semi auto last year that I installed a hand crank on, haha.
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Post by captbart on Jun 25, 2016 9:05:53 GMT -5
I always wanted a .458 Lott and would have gone with the .458 Winchester but I have discovered a conspiracy!
The ammo makers are sneaking in extra recoil each and every year. They have been doing it since I was about 59 years old! Everything I shoot seems to recoil more now than it did 17 years ago although I'm not sure how they manage to increase the recoil in rounds I have had for a long time, felt recoil tells me they have figured something out! I don't really enjoy shooting my .375 H&H Mag anymore. Not only are the rounds expensive, it has started to hurt after a very few rounds (far less than 20 - say around 1) and I just have to accept it is going to hurt when I go to the range.
That is my story and I am sticking to it!
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Post by captbart on Jun 29, 2016 17:00:28 GMT -5
I agree with your types of firearms for my area as well. Burt has a few lever guns on his wall, I def. remember seeing some in Tremors 3. I definitely use the "because I want it" as my reason a lot of the time.I just like something with a big bang, but still enjoy the regular stuff too-I am just an everything gun guy I guess because there isn't any type of guns I am not interested in owning/ shooting. On a side note, I slightly prefer the .460 over the 500 just for the fact it can shoot two other rounds. The 500 is fun too though. Quite right. I watched the Tremor movies again and there are quite a variety of "cowboy" guns on the wall. I guess Burt has a thing for all shooting. One nice thing about the black powder, cap and ball weapons is that the Feds (hence, Texas as we follow the Fed definition) do not consider cap and ball weapons as guns. You can have them mailed to you and powder, caps, and ball is surprisingly inexpensive when looked at on a cost per round basis. Very flexible survival weapons. Anyone have any experience with the .35 Remington lever guns? I've never fired one but I've heard they are a more effective round than the .30-30. The .30-30 is everywhere and has certainly put more meat on the table than probably any other caliber in the world and I love to shoot it but I've always been curious about the .35 Rem. Another choice for me might well be the Ruger Mini-14. I really like the platform and the 5.56 is fun to shoot. It wouldn't be my first choice for an "only" survival rifle but the 5.56 is fun to shoot.
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Post by Mr.ELBlanco on Jul 2, 2016 15:34:34 GMT -5
I agree with your types of firearms for my area as well. Burt has a few lever guns on his wall, I def. remember seeing some in Tremors 3. I definitely use the "because I want it" as my reason a lot of the time.I just like something with a big bang, but still enjoy the regular stuff too-I am just an everything gun guy I guess because there isn't any type of guns I am not interested in owning/ shooting. On a side note, I slightly prefer the .460 over the 500 just for the fact it can shoot two other rounds. The 500 is fun too though. Quite right. I watched the Tremor movies again and there are quite a variety of "cowboy" guns on the wall. I guess Burt has a thing for all shooting. One nice thing about the black powder, cap and ball weapons is that the Feds (hence, Texas as we follow the Fed definition) do not consider cap and ball weapons as guns. You can have them mailed to you and powder, caps, and ball is surprisingly inexpensive when looked at on a cost per round basis. Very flexible survival weapons. Anyone have any experience with the .35 Remington lever guns? I've never fired one but I've heard they are a more effective round than the .30-30. The .30-30 is everywhere and has certainly put more meat on the table than probably any other caliber in the world and I love to shoot it but I've always been curious about the .35 Rem. Another choice for me might well be the Ruger Mini-14. I really like the platform and the 5.56 is fun to shoot. It wouldn't be my first choice for an "only" survival rifle but the 5.56 is fun to shoot. I have shot a .35 Remington a little bit, a friend has one. I don't know much about it versus a 30-30 however.
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