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Post by Mr.ELBlanco on Jun 8, 2014 23:57:13 GMT -5
I don't know where the rest of the threads went in this section, I think they we're lost after the last update. Anyway, there is a site out there like Wikipedia for guns in movies; I have done quiet a bit of work on the Tremors sections and this weekend have updated much of the Tremors: The Series section with screenshots. For those of you interested in guns or just curious to see whats in the show or just want to see a bunch of screenshots from different episodes of the show you might want to check this out: www.imfdb.org/wiki/Tremors:_The_Series
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Post by captbart on Jul 2, 2015 12:46:26 GMT -5
Thanks for putting this back up. I'm sorry we lost all the other "gun nut" stuff; we had some pretty interesting conversations there. I've gotten interested in black power shooting recently. I've discovered that indeed, the Colt 1860 Army is shooting the way God and Col. Colt always intended for men to shoot! Cap and ball can be a pain but they are a fantastic way to shoot! There was even a special on the outdoor channel yesterday on shooting Colt's cap and ball revolvers.
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Post by Mr.ELBlanco on Jul 12, 2015 0:31:03 GMT -5
captbart, yes it is unfortunate we lost some stuff. It seems this happens on proboards every so often and I do not know how to fix it. It is good to see you posting again though and black powder can be fun.
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Post by captbart on Jun 19, 2016 20:39:26 GMT -5
Mr. EB, I don't think I mentioned, I checked out your link to the Wiki. Nicely done page, there. I really liked the still shots showing the various weapons.
I have wondered why Burt did not go the the remaining guns on the wall during 'night of the shriekers'. May not have been first choice but would have helped defend the room from overhead attack. I think we established in Tremors 1 that those guns are loaded. That has always been one of Burt's flaws. He seems to feel safe in his basement - he leaves himself unarmed any number of times. Poor form for a survivalist.
I am of the opinion that 5.56 is an inadequate round for most purposes. I am told that the various civilian loads are much better than the FMJ round but I'm really not a fan. I carried one in RVN and was really underwhelmed. Much happier with the 7.62 round in the M-14/HK-91 class weapon.
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Post by Mr.ELBlanco on Jun 24, 2016 12:50:53 GMT -5
I think its probably more a case of the writer's need good plot devices for things to go wrong for Burt. I don't mind the 5.56 too much, but I am with you-I am a 7.62/.308 fan as well. I have a FN SCAR 17S chambered in it that I love dearly, but I also have like two 5.56 AR platforms and may consider adding another this year.
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Post by captbart on Jun 24, 2016 20:18:23 GMT -5
The AR-15 style weapon is an absolute ball to shoot. I really enjoy firing it; I just don't like the caliber for "serious" work. It is like Burt carrying 9mm; while it is a serviceable round, it doesn't seem to fit Burt's personality. He's more of a Desert Eagle .50 AE style. I have 9mm but I'll always choose a magnum or above .40 if at all possible.
The 5.56 would make a great small predator gun - it has zero recoil and is laser flat out to 400 yards. I'd go with it over a .17 for instance.
Oh, by the way, I saw one of the media darlings go to a range and then talk about how traumatized he was over the "massive" recoil. Claimed it caused him to have PTSD! In Basic Training the DI put the M16 on full auto, put the stock on his nose and emptied the mag. No harm, no foul. That was to prove to those who had never fired before that the full auto was easily managed.
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Post by Mr.ELBlanco on Jun 25, 2016 13:07:37 GMT -5
The AR-15 style weapon is an absolute ball to shoot. I really enjoy firing it; I just don't like the caliber for "serious" work. It is like Burt carrying 9mm; while it is a serviceable round, it doesn't seem to fit Burt's personality. He's more of a Desert Eagle .50 AE style. I have 9mm but I'll always choose a magnum or above .40 if at all possible. The 5.56 would make a great small predator gun - it has zero recoil and is laser flat out to 400 yards. I'd go with it over a .17 for instance. Oh, by the way, I saw one of the media darlings go to a range and then talk about how traumatized he was over the "massive" recoil. Claimed it caused him to have PTSD! In Basic Training the DI put the M16 on full auto, put the stock on his nose and emptied the mag. No harm, no foul. That was to prove to those who had never fired before that the full auto was easily managed. Haha, I saw that. There is all kinds of pictures online out there making fun of him and they are quiet hilarious.
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Post by captbart on Jul 3, 2016 10:29:22 GMT -5
Speaking of videos of guns doing dumb things with guns - have you seen the idiot shooting the TC .600 Nitro Express handgun? www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCInkw3641wwww.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea_Q8C_67jYAt least the second guy hangs on to the gun. Never, never, NEVER shoot a gun whose recoil you can not handle! Maybe the Hulk can handle the recoil of this gun but WHY would anyone want to shoot this thing. As I remember the story, Thompson Center build it to prove they could handle huge loads (I think they made their point) not to let some idiot fire the thing. Those Nitro Express loads are called that for a reason. Spoiler alert: If you have not read Tucker's Monster I recommend you read it as it is a good book. www.goodreads.com/book/show/13065562-tucker-s-monster The following discusses one part of the book but I don't think it ruins things if you haven't read the book yet. In Tucker's Monster our hero laments that he chose a 45-70 instead of one of the more powerful guns as it might have made a difference in the outcome of the story. Actually, I think he beats himself up needlessly as he could not really handle the more powerful loads which makes practice and accuracy difficult. Perhaps it could have been different but I doubt the outcome would have changed regardless of loads chosen. I found it an excellent story and worth the read.
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Post by Mr.ELBlanco on Jul 3, 2016 13:43:51 GMT -5
Yes, I have seen that. I would probably not own that, haha. I wouldn't mind a TC chambered in 45-70 or 30-06 though, or even .375. But nothing like that. I did not know SS Wilson wrote books too, I may have to check that out, sounds interesting.
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Post by captbart on Jul 4, 2016 11:01:31 GMT -5
I fired one in .308. Great handgun, a bit of recoil and I really lucked out and put one in the center of the X. Claimed it was skill and then quit while I was ahead. Great hunting weapons but I'd want a sidearm to handle any big uglies that might show up after I've used my one shot. I've always worried about wounding an animal so I tend to want a fast follow-up shot available (always wanted a double rifle - could never afford one but if I win the lottery ... ) so I personally tend to shy away from single shots for hunting but I'm not trying to talk others out of doing things that way. As long as they keep their skill levels up and are otherwise capable of dealing with surprise threats I think they are good. Of course one of the big reason for professional hunters in the tall and uncut is to protect against the wounded animal problem.
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Post by Mr.ELBlanco on Jul 7, 2016 12:26:48 GMT -5
I agree there, something with a couple more shots should be used as a backup.
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Post by captbart on Jul 16, 2016 11:00:13 GMT -5
When I was a teen ager I got chased up a tree by wild pigs when I went out with just a .22 LR. The ejection port shield hung the ejected case up long enough to foul the bolt and I had a club. Spent what seemed like hours (probably less than 15 min. but seemed like HOURS) before the pigs went away and I finally got down to where I'd dropped my rifle to climb.
I've never gone to the woods without a revolver on my hip capable of handling the biggest, baddest ugly in the area since that day. Amazing what a scared, teenage boy remembers.
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Post by captbart on Nov 6, 2017 10:40:52 GMT -5
Been a while for this thread but I was reading online and some hoplaphobe was ranting on "why does anyone need THAT much ammunition?" when talking about a shooting incident. That got me to thinking about how much is enough? I basically work from the theory that unless you are on fire or trying to swim with all your ammo you can NEVER have too much ammo. The question itself assumes that you have an accurate understanding of every event that might require you to shoot. If I knew that I would not need a gun because I would avoid the situation that required shooting!
That is wrong, I would still like to shoot so I guess I'd still need ammo but if you assume that a firearm is a tool then you need the "power source" (ammo) for the tool. With a variety of situations you will ultimately have a variety of firearms in a variety of calibers. Even with a basic 3 + 1 gun setup (pistol, rifle, shot gun and finally a .22 for small game stuff and inexpensive target practice) you quickly get to well over a thousand rounds. With the price of ammo, I can easily have over a couple of thousand .22LR alone because I can shoot 500 of them in one range sitting.
Burt's ammo storage in 'Night" was a great way to store ready ammo but stand-by ammo in both the main room as well as in the safe room would have made good survival sense.
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Post by captbart on Feb 25, 2018 18:25:01 GMT -5
I was watching the movies + series again. Has anyone else noticed how often Burt's weapon collection is not what he needs or is unavailable to him? His skills, ability to improvise, and the foundation that his preps give him are what save his backside but the actual firearms do not always provide the anticipated solution. His Grizzly Big Bore actually never was used on a Graboid. It was used on a Shrieker (and cinder block wall, a shed, a couple of full oil barrels, and an engine block) in T2 but its replacement in the series is used on one worm but it is Tyler, not Burt, who pulls the trigger.
The twin MaDuce (Browning .50 BMG) mount in T3 did do the job nicely but I think he didn't get to keep that particular set up. Oh, well.
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Post by Mr.ELBlanco on Mar 10, 2018 16:53:31 GMT -5
I was watching the movies + series again. Has anyone else noticed how often Burt's weapon collection is not what he needs or is unavailable to him? His skills, ability to improvise, and the foundation that his preps give him are what save his backside but the actual firearms do not always provide the anticipated solution. His Grizzly Big Bore actually never was used on a Graboid. It was used on a Shrieker (and cinder block wall, a shed, a couple of full oil barrels, and an engine block) in T2 but its replacement in the series is used on one worm but it is Tyler, not Burt, who pulls the trigger. The twin MaDuce (Browning .50 BMG) mount in T3 did do the job nicely but I think he didn't get to keep that particular set up. Oh, well. Probably a writing device mostly, if Burt was allowed to take what someone in his position would take if they had dealt with these creatures before. Then the movie would be very short and not have much drama.
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