luizburtgummer
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I am a Brazilian very fan of the Tremors franchise.
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Post by luizburtgummer on May 12, 2018 0:24:41 GMT -5
worm design too bad. nor does it resemble a graboid. It was still good that it was canceled. Hello Luiz. Other than the look of the graboid, what else did you think about the trailer? I liked the tense atmosphere. But I hated to change Melvin's original actor and I do not like ignoring the movies. I did not like the idea of this series from the beginning.
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Post by project412 on May 12, 2018 7:20:54 GMT -5
I think I'd be ok with this as a sort of one-off, alt universe thing set after the original film, but my big hope (apart from better creature design) would be to see some familiar faces along the way during the ten episode run. Rhonda, Earl, Heather, Burt, etc...
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Post by Earl Bassett on May 12, 2018 7:56:51 GMT -5
This is an alternate universe thing, that's why I'm OK with it. I can enjoy this and the movies won't be tarnished in any way.
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Post by captbart on May 13, 2018 19:56:17 GMT -5
Copyright, perhaps? But I agree, since blood lines i don't get more excited about the movies due to the absence of the classic graboid. The african one is not to bad, but i don't like the way it jumping on the ground like a fish in the water. Is very fanciful. The african AB's is a generic ugly creature. You are hitting on one of my pet peeves. It appears that changes were made just because they could be done with CGI. I didn't really like the computer tongues in the series and I surly didn't like the "detachable" tongues on T5. At least they dropped that nonsense for T6. I'm an old guy, set in my ways, so I guess I am just being a grump. Still, I have no problem with CGI if it makes sense, but to use it just because you can (flying worms? really?) seems lazy and downright wrong.
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Post by project412 on May 13, 2018 21:39:27 GMT -5
Right--T3 had some shaky CGI, but I got why it was used, because it was all the budget and the short shoot time allowed for. I can forgive bad CGI if it is in service of the story.
What is harder to forgive is bad design and story choices. The T5 and T6 creatures aren't bad because they're CGI, they're bad because they're ugly designs with nonsensical alterations made for the story. The detachable tongues, the ABs not even looking like an offshoot of a Graboid (I can't even tell the front end from the back end of the new ABs), and everything is just so overly busy looking that it is hard to make out.
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Post by Dave on May 14, 2018 1:28:22 GMT -5
Hi Dave. Do you have an account here, but forgot your login info? If not, feel free to sign up and join in on the Tremors discussion with the rest of us I was also thinking about the copyright thing, but Tremors is still Universal property so the show wouldn't have to worry about that. I think they just want to spice things up with the look of the creatures, which IMO isn't necessary. Thanks, man! Actually, I don't speak english very well. So I don't feel the need to make an account, but I had to unburden my thoughts about the franchise, and that's the only active forum I found. Exactly. Being able to do does not mean having to do. The CGI allows more action and less limitation with creature scenes, but graboids at T5 and T6 don't even look like animals. They dont behave like animals. One thing that I like at the old films is the the scientific aspect. Ok, is a fiction, but it's palpable. In t5 and t6 it's all so fanciful that you lose immersion in the movie. And, the designs..... The stamped did such a good job on creatures design. The classical graboid is one of the more iconic and well thought out model of monsters. It was designed to be a creature that could be real, anatomically and physiologically. The head and set of jaws of them is something very original and intelligent! The shriekers and ass blasters too! Each of them was designed to look like a different version of the same creature, and it worked. I love the care and the way they thought about everything, and you can see what it was like on this site: Graboids: monsterlegacy.net/2014/09/20/subterranean-terror-tremors/Shriekers: monsterlegacy.net/2014/09/24/subterranean-terror-tremors-2-aftershocks/AB's: monsterlegacy.net/2014/09/25/subterranean-terror-tremors-3-back-to-perfection/These texts are awesome. They research so much, they gave biological foundation to the creatures and etc. But at t5 and t6 it's all very extravagant, unnatural and generic. In the end, i think the goal was to try to do better. Introduce a "better" creature than the old creature. But it did not work. Is like Prometheus, an Alien movie .....without the Alien. Or the godzilla movie of 98.
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Post by Earl Bassett on May 14, 2018 7:08:31 GMT -5
I'd say your English is great, Dave. Hope you change your mind and stick around!
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Post by project412 on May 14, 2018 7:34:24 GMT -5
Very well said, Dave. I feel the exact same about the T5/T6 stuff.
Also, thanks for dropping the Monster Legacy links. I'm friendly with the guy that hosts that blog and it is a seriously great resource. If anyone hasn't read it, his Tremors articles or otherwise, definitely check it out.
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Post by ezexevazad on Nov 20, 2019 10:22:40 GMT -5
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m0ds
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Post by m0ds on May 2, 2022 9:55:45 GMT -5
I get the feeling Universal gave the FX department one of their slug creatures from King Kong, you know, the one that sucks on Andy Serkis' head. It looks like that to me, not really a graboid. So I'm on the fence about this one, mixed feelings overall. I think Bacon is right in a sense that exploring where Val is nowadays is a fun concept and definitely has potential. But I'm not sure this is really it. I think he should go much further left field with it, rather than something like this which is more of a re-hash of the actual Tremors SyFy series only with what appears to be a less endearing cast. Val is a cool character...but "corpos" out in the desert being burks is particularly yawn-fest IMO. That trailer needed another named actor in there too, Bacon could've swung his weight a bit to secure at least a cameo of some other famous person being dragged into the world of Tremors, literally... I think that would've sold it. Like the strong secondary characters he played off in the movie. But sure, it was just a trailer, not even that if I remember rightly, more of a sizzle-reel. I think I'd rather watch a series about VAL MCKEES MONSTER LAND, where he has taken over the failing EARL AND GRADY'S MONSTER WORLD theme-park. Perhaps it would be like Action Park, being built by Val afterall, it might not all be nail and hammered together properly... And MONSTER LAND implies things outside of the park, so he could go hunting sasquatch or whatnot which I think some fans speculated once lol (and nods at SS Wilson's Tuckers Monster premise). Like I said, I think exploring Val later in life is a great idea, but I think a separation from actual main Tremors world would be more interesting, more unique. Never denying that past, and it maybe even coming back to haunt him now and again. But not being the main focus would make any actual Tremors moments all the more fulfilling when they actually happen, rather than the whole thing being Tremors, Tremors, Tremors. Perhaps thats controversial to say make a new Tremors thing but less like Tremors... But its kind of how I feel about it. Graboid should still be his arch nemesis, and it should be massively underused to as to make the encounter between the two all that more impactful. Burt is a graboid hunter but Val was always the graboid out-smarter. If Earl and Grady didn't do it then Val probably had much concrete poured underneath the park's foundations, impenetrable. But in the first few episodes it would become clear, something is making its way through... The opening scene would be one of those "come on down to Val McKee's Monster World" salesman videos. I'd still have Val be a little awkward when put on the spot but always trying to be more of a showman (which I liked the hint in the trailer here of him riding a graboid statue). I mean right there you have everything you need to think ooh, Val is back! He's obviously doing something different, a bit odd, how will he handle it? Will Graboids turn up here, or Earl perhaps, with a lawsuit? Plenty of room for fun cameos of visitors to his Monster Land, can have funny theming and ride names, petting zoo or full on show animals, and of course - a good mystery or two per episode. yadda yadda you get the idea! I have to assume that if people DID want more of the same, that show would have been greenlit, but it wasn't so in my estimation Val McKee + Out Of Left Field Premise = the better way to go. I'm just spitballing and daydreaming haha. Bottom line, Bacon returning as Val McKee - very sweet idea - all for it! But going literally down the same roads again story/setting wise, not so much. And have to laugh a little at the King Kong worm CGI but I understand for sizzle reel there may have been rights/usage issues of the original graboid design and CGI cost cutting, perhaps implicitly stated that they would need to be "25% different" like modern Star Trek and Star Wars lol. Oh well, it was fun to see KB taking a stab at the character again...it's in there somewhere...try another iteration I say!
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